MattInOz
Mar 28, 11:23 PM
Ok so maybe off track but how much longer can the Darwin/Mach underpinings of both OS X and iOS last?
How long till we get to a much better way of doing the lowest level of stuff that Apple starts transitioning the OS to a new kernal. Reading the wiki page for the Mach kernal it would seem many of Mach functions are either duplicated or at least extracted in to newer OS features like grand central. Plus they've put alot of investment in to the LLVM compiler chain.
I guess I'm wondering if "the Future of iOS and OS X" doesn't involve Mach? Lion/5 being the last in that line. With Apple taking the WWDC to discuss what's coming after these two as much as what's in these two. You'd imagine that transition would be a two year public plan to make sure developers are getting themselves ready and it seems like Lion/5 will be in reasonable shape for those that need to delay a the transition for their own work reasons.
Makes it sound like Apple will keep the two brandings to distinguish the two user experiences.
How long till we get to a much better way of doing the lowest level of stuff that Apple starts transitioning the OS to a new kernal. Reading the wiki page for the Mach kernal it would seem many of Mach functions are either duplicated or at least extracted in to newer OS features like grand central. Plus they've put alot of investment in to the LLVM compiler chain.
I guess I'm wondering if "the Future of iOS and OS X" doesn't involve Mach? Lion/5 being the last in that line. With Apple taking the WWDC to discuss what's coming after these two as much as what's in these two. You'd imagine that transition would be a two year public plan to make sure developers are getting themselves ready and it seems like Lion/5 will be in reasonable shape for those that need to delay a the transition for their own work reasons.
Makes it sound like Apple will keep the two brandings to distinguish the two user experiences.
scaredpoet
Dec 27, 08:35 PM
You're talking about a whole country. As it is right now there are more iPhones in NYC than anywhere else. In order for this to be true it would mean tens of thousands of NYers, at least, are having their personal info stolen.
Why is that not unrealistic? NYC has 8.3 million people as of 2008. Even if 99,999 people had their identities stolen for iPhones, that's only 1.2% of the population. Consider that as of 4.6% of the population were victims of ID fraud according to the Federal Trade Commission.
I think it would take less than 99,999 cases in a concentrated area for AT&T to consider potential fraud a problem. Even 50,000 iPhones and accounts lost due to fraud would cause about $15 million in losses, assuming an average $300 subsidy per iPhone.
Also: it's not just ID theft that could be the issue here. there are other ways to scam iPhones off AT&T and resell them.
Also, why only the iPhone?
Because it's a hot item, and continues to outsell other smartphones quarter after quarter?
Because lots of people are looking to buy "nearly new" iPhones on eBay and cragislist, and are willing to pay more in some cases than retail for them?
Because it's easy to jailbreak and unlock, and can be sold that way at a premium to countries where it's in short supply or not yet sold?
Wouldn't these thieves with all their stolen info just move onto another AT&T phone that costs just as much? Such as BB?
Because BB's aren't as easy to unlock, the BB PINs are traceable by the Blackberry network regardless of carrier, and they're just not as much in demand. People don't stand in lines for Blackberries. They have for iPhones.
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Why is that not unrealistic? NYC has 8.3 million people as of 2008. Even if 99,999 people had their identities stolen for iPhones, that's only 1.2% of the population. Consider that as of 4.6% of the population were victims of ID fraud according to the Federal Trade Commission.
I think it would take less than 99,999 cases in a concentrated area for AT&T to consider potential fraud a problem. Even 50,000 iPhones and accounts lost due to fraud would cause about $15 million in losses, assuming an average $300 subsidy per iPhone.
Also: it's not just ID theft that could be the issue here. there are other ways to scam iPhones off AT&T and resell them.
Also, why only the iPhone?
Because it's a hot item, and continues to outsell other smartphones quarter after quarter?
Because lots of people are looking to buy "nearly new" iPhones on eBay and cragislist, and are willing to pay more in some cases than retail for them?
Because it's easy to jailbreak and unlock, and can be sold that way at a premium to countries where it's in short supply or not yet sold?
Wouldn't these thieves with all their stolen info just move onto another AT&T phone that costs just as much? Such as BB?
Because BB's aren't as easy to unlock, the BB PINs are traceable by the Blackberry network regardless of carrier, and they're just not as much in demand. People don't stand in lines for Blackberries. They have for iPhones.
Rt&Dzine
Apr 7, 05:07 PM
I thought you felt this way about the Jews... So, who's worse? The tea baggers or the christ killers?
Hey . . . we determined that the Palestinians were the Christ killers.
Hey . . . we determined that the Palestinians were the Christ killers.
thekaiser
May 25, 12:29 AM
Ok here is the deal. One can claim that it is cheaper to build a PC. This is true for the most part. However, if you look at Dell or other companies they include software. If you build one you must purchase your own. I would bet, that this guy did not buy XP (I could be wrong) or Office XP or any of his software. Speaking as an ex-PC user I know I didn't. Granted, you have to buy Office for the Mac, Appleworks is pretty good for the average user. But, IMHO building your own PC is not drastically cheaper than a Mac if you do it all legally. Please correct me if I am wrong about this.
When it comes to owning a Mac, I own one not because I hate PC's. I own a Mac because I think it is better technology with more potential that has not even been reached. As an engineer myself, I consider it important to support better technology even if it is not the cheapest solution. If everyone just says hey if it isn't broke don't fix it...we would still have to put up with a less worthy product. People must be willing to support better technology or products with the potential to be great. If not good things die and we are all the losers. Just my 2 cents.
When it comes to owning a Mac, I own one not because I hate PC's. I own a Mac because I think it is better technology with more potential that has not even been reached. As an engineer myself, I consider it important to support better technology even if it is not the cheapest solution. If everyone just says hey if it isn't broke don't fix it...we would still have to put up with a less worthy product. People must be willing to support better technology or products with the potential to be great. If not good things die and we are all the losers. Just my 2 cents.
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AdamBOh3
Mar 24, 01:22 PM
that's great. now delta force can each carry 5 iphones - one for each task!! and 5 chargers for each phone after they last 10 minutes on the app - in addition to their 70lbs of gear. :D
NICE!
The kit for Navy SEALS would consist of divingshorts, sunglasses, hair gel, and an iPHONE holder (tactical iPHONE optional).
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The kit for Navy SEALS would consist of divingshorts, sunglasses, hair gel, and an iPHONE holder (tactical iPHONE optional).
DPinTX
Mar 11, 02:29 PM
Line is from Apple store past kids play area now, well over 200+ people
Store closes in 30 min. Then opens again at 5
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*LTD*
Apr 22, 05:11 PM
Having run Linux for the past two years, I find this bit hilarious.
Well, savvy enough to avoid Windows whenever possible.
Well, savvy enough to avoid Windows whenever possible.
redeye be
Jun 2, 03:05 AM
I really like your pic redeye_be it reminds me of something. :rolleyes:
But have you seen it all? ;)
But have you seen it all? ;)
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zwilliams07
Sep 27, 09:56 AM
Hopefully the next update will resolve some rather annoying bugs. The one that irritates me to no limit is the bug of moving directories off the desktop into other directories.
As soon as I do, all my icons are thrown about on the desktop. Gawd its annoying.
As soon as I do, all my icons are thrown about on the desktop. Gawd its annoying.
MacCoaster
Oct 2, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by ooartist
To squash some WinTel people in this forum/post trying to say Windows scales better than UNIX.
I never said it scaled better. In fact, I said the opposite.
However, the fact that Mac OS X's kernel is *NOT* BSD, but Mach remains. Mach is a microkernel and a freaking good one, but Mach microkernels that OS X uses has poor task switching; I'm not sure if the Mach microkernels in OS X is based on GNU/Mach (based off CMU's Mach) or the actual Mach microkernel from Carnegie-Mellon. So some of the scalability of UNIX is lost through this. But trust me, UNIX scales way beyond Windows. I've said Windows isn't for computers with more than 32 processors--that's what UNIX is for--pure science--no one needs the crap from Mac OS X and Windows to do science and mathematics research. Real men use UNIX on 8192-way systems. :) :D :)
To squash some WinTel people in this forum/post trying to say Windows scales better than UNIX.
I never said it scaled better. In fact, I said the opposite.
However, the fact that Mac OS X's kernel is *NOT* BSD, but Mach remains. Mach is a microkernel and a freaking good one, but Mach microkernels that OS X uses has poor task switching; I'm not sure if the Mach microkernels in OS X is based on GNU/Mach (based off CMU's Mach) or the actual Mach microkernel from Carnegie-Mellon. So some of the scalability of UNIX is lost through this. But trust me, UNIX scales way beyond Windows. I've said Windows isn't for computers with more than 32 processors--that's what UNIX is for--pure science--no one needs the crap from Mac OS X and Windows to do science and mathematics research. Real men use UNIX on 8192-way systems. :) :D :)
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FF_productions
Sep 22, 07:46 PM
the iMac's are the best deal apple has, I don't know how much better Apple can make that machine.... :confused:
spicyapple
Nov 11, 05:47 AM
PC dude looks to be wearing a wig. Please tell me Japanese guys at least comb their hair.
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dethmaShine
May 2, 12:43 PM
But what does Consumer Reports say about the network connection of this phone?
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nbs2
Oct 9, 06:47 PM
I'm getting really sick of companies that complain whenever they're met with competition. They love capitalism until it's working against them. Target and Wal*Mart are acting like little children who don't get their way.
Under the Sherman Act, what Target and Wal*Mart are doing falls under the category of antitrust. Attempting to manipulate the market through the use of contracts and threats aimed towards hurting competitors is defined as antitrust. If Target and Wal*Mart go along with this, a class-action lawsuit can be filed against them for forcing us to pay their prices for DVDs without a lower-priced alternative.
Since people seem to have missed my earlier point when the claim was the failure of the free market:
this is the market in play. This appears to be a business dispute, not governmental involvement. The free market requires communication between businesses to maximize profits.
As for the Sherman, the Act was designed to protect consumers from the leveraging of monopoly power to conspire to control a market. Here, there is no conspiracy to control the market. Rather, there is a complaint by one business entity regarding the activities of another with which it does business. If Target and Wal-mart were conspiring to split the market (or if the industry conspired with T and WM), that would trigger the Sherman.
Grow up local mom and pop store. This isn't a communist nation, we have a little something called Capitalism that's basically social darwinism: Compete or shut up.[emphasis added]
Under the Sherman Act, what Target and Wal*Mart are doing falls under the category of antitrust. Attempting to manipulate the market through the use of contracts and threats aimed towards hurting competitors is defined as antitrust. If Target and Wal*Mart go along with this, a class-action lawsuit can be filed against them for forcing us to pay their prices for DVDs without a lower-priced alternative.
Since people seem to have missed my earlier point when the claim was the failure of the free market:
this is the market in play. This appears to be a business dispute, not governmental involvement. The free market requires communication between businesses to maximize profits.
As for the Sherman, the Act was designed to protect consumers from the leveraging of monopoly power to conspire to control a market. Here, there is no conspiracy to control the market. Rather, there is a complaint by one business entity regarding the activities of another with which it does business. If Target and Wal-mart were conspiring to split the market (or if the industry conspired with T and WM), that would trigger the Sherman.
Grow up local mom and pop store. This isn't a communist nation, we have a little something called Capitalism that's basically social darwinism: Compete or shut up.[emphasis added]
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mac-er
Sep 17, 10:14 PM
From my experience working retail, she is going to the back and talking to other employees...."OMG, there is this creepy guy in here again."
You'll really know that is true if someone else comes out of the backroom to look at you.
You'll really know that is true if someone else comes out of the backroom to look at you.
lepshi
May 3, 08:54 AM
I can't download it, the "Download Mac Client" is just gray. Is it becaus i live in Europe?
I have the same problem.. it might be. may it be that mac version is not available if submitted computer stats are of a pc?
I have the same problem.. it might be. may it be that mac version is not available if submitted computer stats are of a pc?
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Spanky Deluxe
Oct 27, 10:55 PM
Hope some of you guys will make it to the annual Macrumors London Picnic, usually in July or so. :)
I'll be there unless I have some another 'incident' with a certain garden folk. :rolleyes:
I'll be there unless I have some another 'incident' with a certain garden folk. :rolleyes:
jonnysods
Mar 28, 09:06 AM
So exciting. I love the OS roadmap updates.
haruhiko
Mar 28, 08:36 AM
No iOS event before the WWDC?
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topgunn
Sep 27, 11:18 AM
I think you probably should have gotten a machine with a graphics card if you wanted to play 3d games.
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Etrain
Mar 24, 05:23 PM
32GB syncing now! $426 OTD. They didn't have any 16GB near me, but one store said they are getting a few in tomorrow. So, even if they are out now, check tomorrow I guess.
blevins321
Apr 1, 08:39 AM
It's not like it's TiVo, you have to watch live, so you see commercials. But iPads are Neilson-compatible yet. :cool:
MacRumors
Apr 5, 07:51 AM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/05/wozniak-tablet-is-the-pc-for-normal-people/)
Macworld (http://www.macworld.com/article/159010/2011/04/wozniak.html) reports on Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak's keynote session at Storage Networking World in California. Wozniak was questioned about how tablets would change the computer industry.�The tablet is not necessarily for the people in this room,� Wozniak told the audience of enterprise storage engineers. �It�s for the normal people in the world,� Wozniak said.
�I think Steve Jobs had that intention from the day we started Apple, but it was just hard to get there, because we had to go through a lot of steps where you connected to things, and (eventually) computers grew up to where they could do ... normal consumer appliance things,� Wozniak said.
Article Link: Wozniak: Tablet is the PC for 'normal people' (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/05/wozniak-tablet-is-the-pc-for-normal-people/)
Macworld (http://www.macworld.com/article/159010/2011/04/wozniak.html) reports on Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak's keynote session at Storage Networking World in California. Wozniak was questioned about how tablets would change the computer industry.�The tablet is not necessarily for the people in this room,� Wozniak told the audience of enterprise storage engineers. �It�s for the normal people in the world,� Wozniak said.
�I think Steve Jobs had that intention from the day we started Apple, but it was just hard to get there, because we had to go through a lot of steps where you connected to things, and (eventually) computers grew up to where they could do ... normal consumer appliance things,� Wozniak said.
Article Link: Wozniak: Tablet is the PC for 'normal people' (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/05/wozniak-tablet-is-the-pc-for-normal-people/)
KnightWRX
Apr 30, 05:45 PM
web applications that don't require install of real programs, then I'll grant "mac-users" that one.
How is a web application not a real program ? It's written in a programming language, it executes instructions based on how the code is compiled/interpreted, and it displays results by processing some user input.
Sounds like a real program to me.
Anyway, "installing" a computer program or application is savvy ? Then what does it mean when you compile your applications straight from the source code ? Better yet, write them yourself ?
Considering that nearly all "Pro IT" overwhelmingly used Windows
Please, all the guys who are any good at IT are Unix users. "Windows" sysadmins suck. It's a dirty secret and don't tell my boss : I probably know more about Windows than they do. I just don't want to work with it.
not to mention that "gamers" are one of the most comptuer-savvy consumers
Laughable. Gamers are good at one thing : Buying parts and jamming them together. It's not like they even come close to understanding what is meant by sub-pixel tessellation and what that means on their screens (or even what a sub-pixel is).
How is a web application not a real program ? It's written in a programming language, it executes instructions based on how the code is compiled/interpreted, and it displays results by processing some user input.
Sounds like a real program to me.
Anyway, "installing" a computer program or application is savvy ? Then what does it mean when you compile your applications straight from the source code ? Better yet, write them yourself ?
Considering that nearly all "Pro IT" overwhelmingly used Windows
Please, all the guys who are any good at IT are Unix users. "Windows" sysadmins suck. It's a dirty secret and don't tell my boss : I probably know more about Windows than they do. I just don't want to work with it.
not to mention that "gamers" are one of the most comptuer-savvy consumers
Laughable. Gamers are good at one thing : Buying parts and jamming them together. It's not like they even come close to understanding what is meant by sub-pixel tessellation and what that means on their screens (or even what a sub-pixel is).
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